23
Dec
2007
Posted by The Mad Ape as Software
I bought this latest release from Symantec. Norton 360 offers a wide range of protection. From viruses, to phishing scams, fine tuning your PC. It even does back ups. Once I got it installed and configured, I was very impressed. Once I got it installed…it only took 2 1/2 days. 2 1/2 days of hell. 2 1/2 days of not having any protection on my computer.
There are two ways to solve your Norton 360 Woes…
1) The easiest method – Get rid of it and replace it with AVG antivirus software. (updated Oct. 7, 2011 – I USE THEIR PAID VERSION)
OR
2. Follow all of these steps to get yourself out of Norton 360 Hell.
Here are some simple steps that Symantec will not tell you in their FAQ. If you follow these steps you should be successful in your installation. All of this information is based on numerous online chats with Symantec Technical Support. These instructions are not for a computer novice. Use these instructions at your own risk.1) Background Processes
Certain background processes can prevent a successful installation of the new software. First thing I suggest is completely shutting down your old security suite.
Next you need to disable potential conflicting background processes. All I can do is show you what worked for me. I have no way of knowing what you run for software so if you run into problems, chances are you have a conflicting background process.
If that is the case then you will have to start going through each process, disabling it and trying the rest of the steps again. Any disabled processes should be re-enabled after you get Norton 360. To re-enable a process just undo the this step that I am about to show you.
To disable a process:Click ‘Start’ > ‘Run’ and type ‘msconfig’ (without quotations) into the textbox and click OK. The System Configuration Utility will launch. Click the ‘Services’ Tab.

In my case Symantec had me disable Ad-Aware 2007, Atheros Configuration Service, ATI HotKey Poller on this tab. Once these services are deselected then click on the ‘Startup’ Tab.

You may not have some of these items on your computer so don’t be alarmed if you do not see them listed. Symantec had me disable FreeRAM XP Pro, msmsgs, and qttask. FreeRAM XP Pro is a freeware RAM utility to help free up RAM on your computer. msmsgs is MSN Messenger, and qttask is QuickTime.
Once your selections are made then click the OK button. You will have to restart your computer. Undoubtedly you will get a pop-up window saying that your computer is in selective startup mode. Just ignore this message. Everything is fine.
2) Uninstall Existing Security Suite
Before attempting to install Norton 360, uninstall any Norton Security Software from your computer using their uninstall utility. Your original software came with a built-in uninstall option. Do not use that. Use the one available on their website. Depending on what you have, choose the correct uninstall by clicking here.
After running it you may have to restart your computer.
3) Search and destroy
Using the Search feature on your computer do a search for the word ‘Symantec’ and manually remove any remaining uninstalled components of the previous security suite.
Repeat process, searching on the word ‘Norton’.
4) Edit the Registry
The registry has to be manually edited to remove any remnants of the software. The uninstall that we just ran should have taken care of it but in Symantec fashion it may not have.
I tried to use CCleaner to edit the registry but it would not remove everything. I don’t know why, because I have used CCleaner for a long time and have never had a problem. I can’t prove it was screwy Symantec software, but I would bet my money on them as the culprit.
Make sure that you have permissions to edit the registry. To do this your Windows login account must be set to administrator status. Only an administrator can do this.
To edit the registry Click Start > Run and then type ‘Regedit’ (without quotations) into the textbox and then click the OK button. From the registry screen the first thing you MUST do is backup the registry.
Click File > Export and the Export pane opens.

Make sure that you set the export range to ‘All’, then navigate to the folder you want to save the registry to and click the ‘Save’ button.
Within the registry editor navigate to the Symantec folder. Click the (+) button to the left of ‘HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE’ to display the contents. Click the (+) button to the left of ‘Software’. Scroll down until you see ‘Symantec’. Hi-lite it and click Edit > Delete. You will be asked to confirm this. Click the ‘Yes’ button. Note: If ‘Symantec’ is not listed then that means the uninstall utility worked properly.
5) Install it now
You are now ready to install Norton 360. Just follow the on-screen instructions and the installation should go smoothly…hopefully!
6) Still having problems?
If the software gets to about 50-75% installed and then starts uninstalling itself and wanting to generate an error report, then you have a background process conflicting with it. That is what happened to me. It would not be so bad if the failed install and uninstall did not take 45 minutes each time. You need to find the conflict as described in Step 1.
Final Commentary
All of these problems could have been avoided if Symantec would not have used the consumer as a beta tester. This product is a good one but it was released before all bugs were worked out. This is typical of profit-driven companies trying to rush their products to market because of self-imposed deadlines.
As of posting, I see that they now have a new version in beta. I would suspect that they will attempt to address the concerns I have outlined in here. Let’s hope that this blog entry becomes obsolete quickly.
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35 Responses
Matthew Carney
December 30th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
I’ve installed Norton 360 on a freinds laptop and in 360 it says “your browser is not set to detect fraudulent web sites and to authenticate genuine web sites” and on the right it says “status off”.
Cane some one halp me with this problem please.
The Mad Ape
January 2nd, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Sorry dude I can not help you with that one. I use FireFox and I think that you are using Internet Explorer.
I now have the product working fine on my computer now but it was a royal pain in the ass.
And We are not alone. One of my best friends called me last night. He has installed it on both of his computers. He said it has slowed the machines down to a point where he is considering removing it altogether.
With me it has made my computer work faster…especially at startup.
Good Luck dude and let me know how you make out.
The Mad Ape
Boris McTavish
February 23rd, 2008 at 11:58 am
Hey dude, I just got this program and installed it but it blocks one of my patches from working so I can’t run one of my programs. Just wondering if you know how to manually stop it from doing stuff to just one file. Thanks.
The Mad Ape
February 29th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Hey Boris.
I looked it over and can not find anything. How about disabling N360 and then installing your patch and then enable N360.
Will that do what you want?
The Mad Ape
Boris McTavish
March 17th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Hey man,
Thanks for trying, but it doesn’t help. Every scan gets rid of it and I can’t seem to find any place do disable scanning of any specific programs, only types.
james
June 20th, 2008 at 3:50 am
my installation gets halfway through and then it says registry edit has been disabled by your administator, but after typing “Regedit” into run the same message comes up. have you got anyother ideas.
thanks
The Mad Ape
June 20th, 2008 at 7:24 am
James,
Are you logged into your computer with administrator privileges?
The Mad Ape
http://www.tatumba.com
Halo Shg
September 17th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Thank you SO much! I could never install Norton after (ironically) a virus corrupted the files! I deleted the registry keys, tried again and viola, it worked!
I’ll say it again, THANK YOU!
~Halo Shg
The Mad Ape
September 30th, 2008 at 12:00 am
You know what is a sad commentary of Norton? This page is the most popular page on my blog and is ranked number 1 on Goggle.
The Mad Ape
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DiZChiNoRicHie
October 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Hello Mad Ape, i have followed your instructions and it still uninstalls itself after abt 75% or so. i have disabled everything possible as per the instructions on services and startup, have also deleted the symantec folder in the registry. any idea? ive reformatted the laptop 4 times and still no luck!
DiZChiNoRicHie
October 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 pm
oh btw, i forgot to add that awhile ago, norton 360 installed fine… but thats when i first got the laptop, nothing has changed, what could be wrong?
The Mad Ape
October 4th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
DiZChiNoRicHie
Did you use the uninstall utility available from Norton? It is available at http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039?OpenDocument&lg=en&ct=us&seg=hho&src=hot Make sure you choose the correct one.
Also check for some other processes. These instructions do work.
The Mad Ape
Satanic-Panic
October 7th, 2008 at 10:02 am
hey mate, ive got the issue also with the whole “everything’s fine up until about 75 percent and the loading bar goes back down” thing.
something i noticed: im on vista and still have that Windows Sidebar thingy still hangin oround, and while its installing, even when sidebar isnt running, as soon as the 360 starts uninstalling itself the sidebar pops up and runs itself. (???)
might this have anything to do with it?
Randomdude?
October 7th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Hey, i got a problem, ive got loads of viruses and fake antivirus things, i tried installing it but it just seemed to take ages and the virus made the pc crash. Now when i try installing it it gets through the start page/extracting page, finishes then dissapears, im using the free download, please help asap!
ingemart
November 9th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
I wish I’d thought to look for this site BEFORE I even considered Norton 360. I did follow the instructions to uninstall the existing security software, but those were the only uninstall instructions provided for my downloaded version. During the configuration stage my PC crashed. Completely. Cannot restore ANYTHING. The PC is totally unresponsive. So I guess I’m looking at getting a new CPU. The good news is, it looks like Symantec is refunding my money for the downloaded software…
Buyer beware!!
sw
November 10th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Shocking to realize from this post (today 11/11/2008), every bit is still the same. Just out of the horrifying experience with 360, ended up reinstalling os and uninstalling 360 (!?! only Symantec answer this why)… and installing it …
… with a little difference… it had grown enough to screw up the os just in one and half days and leaving no other option other than to reinstall os …
… really doubt, which world are we living in …
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tomm
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:20 pm
i cant install norton 360 2.0
whenit is installing it stops and says failed to install requird compents which is the Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 SP1 Redistributable Package. how can i bypass norton 360 to not to look for microsft tool and keep going without installing microft visual …..
hope to see some answers soon IT REAALLY IMPORANT
TOMM
The Mad Ape
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Hello tomm
This is a new one to me. May I suggest that you give it what it is looking for. Try downloading and installing the Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 SP1 Redistributable Package from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=200b2fd9-ae1a-4a14-984d-389c36f85647&displaylang=en
It is a rather small file. Once installed then retry N360 again. I have 2.0 running on 3 computers and all work fine.
You may wish to create a restore point prior to doing anything so you can recover from a disaster.
Good luck and let me know how you make out.
The Mad Ape
http://www.tatumba.com
tomm
December 4th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
its installed it just cant find it is there any way around this message?
The Mad Ape
December 5th, 2008 at 2:07 am
Ok try to uninstall it…then install norton then reinstall the MC Vis C++ again
Remember to create a restore point first
If this does not work try the Norton Support or send them an email bitch loudly and see if they will refund you. They did for me.
I am in the process of doing a follow up to this by recommending a better product. Please stay tuned.
The Mad Ape
http://www.tatumba.com
tomm
December 14th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
how do u install mc vis c++ from my computer so i can try once more reinstalling it
thanks for all ur help the mad ape
The Mad Ape
December 14th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
tomm
As I said before go to http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=200b2fd9-ae1a-4a14-984d-389c36f85647&displaylang=en and download the executable then install it as per manufacturers instructions which I would assume is double clicking the executable you download.
The Mad Ape
http://www.tatumba.com
LJ
January 23rd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Your instructions were great!! I spent the whole morning trying to unistall old norton files.
I was shown your instuctions by a co-worker and I have to say it did the trick in less than five minutes.
The Mad Ape
January 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
LJ
Glad to know that you got it working. I know how much of a pain it can be!
The Mad Ape
http://www.tatumba.com
SSCAMPER
January 29th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
i too wish i could’ve read this before buying Norton 360. i’m assuming the virus corrupted something in my computer to prevent me from accessing the internet. anyways, After running the CD and installing more than halfway it gives the error “gathering information for Norton 360 installation error” and then it resumes to uninstall what it just installed. aaack!!! I just about gave up last night, but tonight I will try deleting the registry keys trick. If not, will definitely come back here to ask more questions. Thanks dude.
Bill
March 24th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Norton 360 Version 2 is not compatible with IE8.
YOU MUST UPGRADE to Norton 360 Version 3. This is very easy to do by letting Norton do the upgrade. Get onto the Norton site via Help and Support and start a live chat session with Norton support. Give Norton control of your PC through a live connect session. They will download for “FREE” the new Version 3 of Norton 360. They will also uninstall your Version 2 (FIRST) before installing the new Version 3. Problem solved and IE8 works great with Version 3
sarah
May 1st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
have just bought norton 360 ,computer uninstall original security,put disc in starts to install says being unistalled ,click on re install and then we wait and wait ..have tried several times with no success..please help
si
August 31st, 2009 at 3:13 pm
many thanks have got no hair left day and a half you are quite right norton hell
JohnnyCash
January 31st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Hi there.
Thank you for a great post. It was very helpfull.
Anyone reading this post should bookmark this guys contents.
I have a new PC and needed some installation help so i went over to http://www.InstallSoftware.com but they did not provide me with the in depth
info this guy did. he kicks all the bigger sites’ butts.
Thanks Again
YoVict
March 28th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Thank you for this! I have been my Dad’s official Norton installer every year when it expires and he gets the upgrade for cheap. It has never gone smoothly, and once we had to get my computer expert brother to drive an hour to come tinker with the registry to set things right.
So last week Dad calls and says he’s got N360 and when can I come put it in. Once I got there I Googled “installing Norton 360″ and found your article, read it to him, and we went out and got Kaspersky which of course installed lickety-split. I NEVER have to deal with Norton again. THANK YOU!!!
The Mad Ape
March 28th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
@YoVict
The good news is that this blog posting helped bail you out.
The bad news is that this blog posting help bail you out.
This blog entry was made back in Dec 2007. Here we are in 2010 and this post still ranks at the top of the search engines for Norton 360 Problems.
SAD SAD SAD. I had thought that my steps to get out of Norton Hell would have become obsolete by now. I guess I am as good at judging time-lines as Symantec is at making software.
TMA
High Desert Skye
October 5th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Ever so grateful for all this wonderful information. I’ve posted the address up on Amazon. Look for “Mysterious Microburst.”
I *considered* purchasing Norton 360 for my older “door stop” PC desktop & ancient laptop, since the price mysteriously dropped to 50% or less. Having been a software tester for decades, it is my tendency to question why a piece of software is selling so cheaply. Although it angers the optimists around me, I look for worst-case scenarios. I read reviews for the product on Amazon. The majority of people appear to have new machines, fast processors, gobs of RAM and more than adequate space on their Hard Drive(s), so they are thrilled at what a good deal they’ve gotten.
THEN there are the single-star reviews from people who have some very creative ideas about what happened to their machine post-installation. I began researching and found this site. Great stuff..sorry you had to go through this experience but you have done a tremendous service to people who imagine that large software companies like Norton have integrity. You are correct in your observation that matters to these companies is Their Bottom Line. They do not care about the naive consumer, let alone the experienced ones. If a person hasn’t got the latest and greatest equipment, that’s their tough luck. Sadly, those who can’t pony up a thousand or more for “state-of-the-art” equipment are often the people who are buying this product because it looks like such a good deal.
A person can’t afford to throw away 80 bucks, but they can afford to spend 40 bucks — and in too many cases they’d be better off tossing their money into the fire. They don’t bother to uninstall the previous version of Norton because there really shouldn’t be a NEED to manually uninstall a previous version of a product. In most cases, they believe they can UPGRADE. What rational reason can be given to explain that an attempt to upgrade is akin to playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun? Whatever happened to Class Action Lawsuits?
Regrettably, I worked for Microsoft for several years and can confirm everything you assert about large software companies. As a Tester. I sat in many meetings and argued that Developers needed to fix a problem I could hit in half a dozen ways. Here are some of the common responses, as I recall: “We don’t care.” “You’re the ONLY one who has reported this problem. Customers are unlikely to ever encounter it. We’re going to PUNT this one.” “We’ve already blown one ship date. We can’t screw up another. It’s going to ship with this problem. We’ll release a fix for it in an update.” I was PRESSURED to sign off on products I knew to have problems that would wreak havoc when encountered. I remember using the word “altruism” in a meeting and having a dozen people laugh in my face. I resigned from Microsoft while I still had some sense of integrity and morality. I walked away from a large paycheck, many stock options and incredible benefits while I still had some crumbs of sanity left.
Since that time, things have gone steadily downhill. The structure of testing has deteriorated while the people who run the show assert that testing has *improved*. If the guy at the top says it’s better, it MUST be true. heh. The first time I saw and attempted to work with VISTA, I was horrified. I didn’t purchase or install VISTA on any of my machines. By this time I was working a minimum wage gig, tutoring teenagers and young adults with disabilities. Make money or remember what it means to have self-respect and take pride in one’s work. Imagine a teenager who has a form of autism shopping for a laptop. They TRUST the advertising. I attempt to explain that software is designed and tested by human beings and companies are not always telling the truth. Just because a company is huge and successful does not mean you can believe what you see on TV, read in magazine ads or are told by salespeople in stores. They encounter problem after problem in VISTA, including the infamous BSOD (Blue Screen Of Death, for the uninitiated).
This can be a devastating lesson that causes people who demonstrated great promise to abandon computing entirely. People with autism often do not have high frustration tolerance. For some, computer proficiency meant they had a chance of a career, of acquiring technical and social skills that would have allowed them to live independently. When software doesn’t work, when the machine crashes, they do not blame the software or manufacturer: they blame themselves.
This is not sour grapes nor cynicism you’re reading in this comment: this is reality. In small software companies, when I said software wasn’t going to ship until certain problems were corrected and tested, software didn’t ship. I faced off with Developers who were tired of coding — I was tired of testing, but there was no way I’d let the product ship until problems were fixed and I’d tested on every configuration we claimed to support. The owners and management supported me, because they knew one bad release could cost them their business. I never reported a bug that could not be reproduced. And if something was minor and difficult to encounter, it went into the Read Me First document. Nothing that caused a crash and/or data loss went out to the public. Huge software companies that rake in billions of dollars cannot continue to coast on what was once a strong reputation and release bad products to consumers without suffering the consequences.
In a weak economy with free and cheap alternatives that are better, where certain source code is openly available and custom solutions can be created, even customers who have become accustomed to using products from big name companies are going to find the courage to venture into the unknown. Even the most naive person can tell the difference between bad and good, between what works and what doesn’t and learn from experience.
Testing was and should remain the Final Word and it is not the job of the consumer to find and report problems to a company that in all likelihood already knows the problem exists. The monolithic companies are losing ground to smaller players and Linux distros. Unfortunately, there will always be the consumer who trusts the big names to do the right thing, when the opposite is true. To these consumers, I say this: you can become accustomed to mediocrity as many people have and will continue to do. However, until you quit settling for whatever garbage these companies glamorize and put into a pretty new box and begin to complain and/or quietly boycott by refusing to spend another dollar on new versions or “upgrades”, these companies will continue to believe that their consumer base is nothing more than a vast herd of sheep waiting to be fleeced.
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