22
Dec
2007
Shame on Symantec for releasing Norton 360, a new product that is nothing but a pain in the ass to buy and an even bigger pain in the ass to install. Today I will talk about the online purchase process of a Symantec product so you are aware of the pitfalls of these weasels.
If you are reading this because you are at wits end, with respect to your install, then tomorrow is for you. Hopefully my experience will help you to not have one that is similar.
Why the Purchase?
This all started when I made my first purchase using MyPowerMall.com. I wanted to test the mall system to see if I got credit for making the purchase. Since my Norton Security 2007 was expired, I figured that I needed it, so I did the the upgrade.
Up-sells, Symantec style, pissed me off
I conducted the transaction and the first thing I noticed is that when I clicked the ‘buy now’ button, I was offered a choice to buy Norton 360 for two years. No problem, I only wanted it for 1 year so I declined.
That is the way it should be. It is ‘professional’ and the generally accepted way to buy online. Offer an up-sell and let the buyer decide whether to buy it or not.
Next I added my order to the cart and immediately I was pissed off. Norton had added a $10.99 extended download service plan to my order. I was not asked if I wanted it. They just assumed I did and added it to my purchase.

This type of up-sell technique, although not illegal, is not ethical. I should be given the choice to add items to my purchase. Instead the onus is on me to remove it.
Before removing it, I had to see what was so good about this little gem that I simply had to have it. Clicking on the ‘>What is the Extended Download Service?’ link I saw that this was an option to extend the 60-day length of time I could download my purchased software from Symantec. WTF? I paid for it. It was mine. 60 days from now it will still be mine. I am paying for it for a year so I should have access to it for a year.
This is ludicrous. They expect me to pay them $10.99 so I can have the privilege to download my software outside the ’60-day’ window they decided to give me. Kiss my blue monkey butt Symantec. I promptly clicked the little garbage can icon to the left of this item and removed it. Fitting that the icon is a garbage can!
You think that was bad. It gets worse.
Beware of the Symantec Auto-Renewal Policy
This was a shocker. In order to buy from them I have to agree to their auto-renewal policy. I could not opt out prior to purchase. This is bad…really really bad. Symantec you should be ashamed of yourself. There is no need for this type of marketing from what I had previously considered a professional corporation.
Norton Ongoing Protection
By placing this order, you consent to Symantec automatically renewing your annual subscription. Symantec will notify you by email prior to expiration of your current subscription. Do nothing and the regular subscription renewal price (plus applicable tax) will be automatically charged using the payment method (e.g. credit or debit card) provided. You authorize Symantec to use contact and billing information provided during purchase activity to charge each renewal. You also authorize Digital River, Symantec’s authorized online reseller, to transfer the contact and billing information provided for your purchase today to Symantec for this purpose.
If you do not want to be automatically charged, you may discontinue the auto renewal feature of Norton Ongoing Protection at any time after completing this order by following the instructions contained on the Symantec website and in the confirmation email.
Oh good! Fantastic! I can choose to opt out of your auto-renewal policy AFTER I make the purchase. News flash dipsticks I am supposed to be offered a chance to do this BEFORE I make my purchase.
Symantec your sales techniques and marketing strategies show that you have placed profits over customer service. The only reason you do this is because you hope that unsuspecting individuals will not notice until it is too late. You are deserving of the title weasels!
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6 Responses
Adam
April 2nd, 2008 at 12:59 am
I couldnt agree more, i just made the same purchase myself and was atonished with the sales tactics used. I opted to have the program delivered becuase the “Extended Download Plan” was the most rediculas thing ive ever heard. Shipping was cheaper. Although i never cought the “Ongoing Protection Scam” until just now. Ill have to make sure i disable that. Its unfortunate becuase its a decent pruduct, and they have surely lost many customers due to these horible sales methodes. Including me.
Robert
July 6th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I have had Norton for a few years now. So what I am about to say is not conjecture. Several days (around ten days) prior to renewal, Norton affected the performance of my computer. It becomes sluggish. There are LiveUpdate errors. After I renew due to the fatigue of operating a hampered machine, all is well again. Somehow Norton is charging for 365 days of performance but only delivering about 355. They cripple the machine so that renewals are expedited. Customers lose 10 days of peace of mind and money. What can we do other than choose another product? Is there a real way to fight? Who has the skills?
Ronald
August 14th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
I agree with the sentiments of the other correspondents on Norton Symantic’s dodgy financial dealings. I was also in a position whereby my subscription for Norton Internet Security was about to expire on 22 August 2008. A perusal of my credit card account showed that I had been billed by Symantic on the 08/08/2008 for the renewal. So much for Automatic Renewal.
Things only got more murkier when I decided to upgrade to Norton 360 V2. a much vaunted, superior product. (This was only done without first consulting my credit card account and noticing I had been charged for the Norton Internet Security product) The price for the Norton 360 product in New Zealand (from their site) is $129.99NZD. The site I inadvertently downloaded the software from was the USA Norton site – price $129.97USD, converted $190.36NZD (Price on my credit card). Is this a scam or not? I think it is!!!!
To sumarise. The Internet Security product I have been billed prematurally for is not on my machine, probably removed by the the Norton 360 download, (or probably was never there in the first case) and I think I have been ripped off with the price of the Norton 360 product. They say I owe $270.36NZD in total when in fact I should only be charged $129.00NZD in total. Beware every body of Symantic’s dodgy billing. The only redeeming factor is that the Norton 360 programme is working quite well.
I now have a battle on my hands to unsnarl the billing debacle!!!! The moral of the story is CAVEAT EMPTOR.
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Mike
June 30th, 2009 at 5:15 am
I do agree but it’s unfortunately true that upsells, cross-sells, auto renewals are usual tactics to increase average order and conversion rate… They are all done by Digital River, who hosts thousands of EC sites on behalf of publishers.
Used to work at Digital River and know all of it. It’s all about revenue, revenue and revenue!
Greg
December 2nd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Norton is a fraud. I havent used Norton in many years due to their slimy business practices. Today they charged me 69.99 for a renewal….I call it for what it really is: Thief.
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