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2010
Posted by The Mad Ape as Religion Meets Science
The Global Consciousness Project is an international collaboration of scientists, engineers, and artists. We maintain a global network that has been collecting data continuously since 1998 from sensitive instruments which produce random sequences. Our purpose is to examine subtle correlations and structure in the data that seem to reflect the presence and activity of consciousness in the world. Looking at major global events including both tragedies and celebrations, we have learned that when millions of us share thoughts and emotions the GCP network shows correlations. We interpret this as evidence for interconnections at a deep, unconscious level. An implication is that we are part of a growing global consciousness or oneness. From a CBS2 news item recorded by Brian Keefe in July 2005. For more information on the GCP, go to noosphere.princeton.edu
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Physicist David Bohm talks about truth and perception
“How is it that something as unconscious as the matter of the brain ever gives rise to something as immaterial as an experience?” muses Peter Russell in From Science to God, a stimulating program exploring science, spirit, and the mystery of consciousness.
Russell, a prominent thinker in the fields of consciousness and science, asserts that science cannot explain the fact that humans are conscious. This capacity for inner experience he calls “the great mystery.” According to Russell, who studied mathematics and theoretical physics before he delved into experimental psychology, science is locked into the view that consciousness itself is somehow created by the human brain. He believes that we need to question this basic assumption and consider instead that awareness is present to some degree in all living things.
The difference with humans is that we are aware that we aware. But what is it that is aware? In bustling downtown Los Angeles, Peter explores the perennial question of “Who am I?” He looks at how we seek fame and fashion, power and position, in our search for inner fulfillment. But in the final analysis, peace of mind is to be found within our selves rather than in what we have or do.
In the closing, he observes that Western science has proved very successful in explaining the world and advancing technology, but has not provided us with meaning or values. He calls for integration of scientific understanding with the wisdom of spiritual traditions. “The next great frontier is not outer space,” Russell concludes, “it’s inner space.”
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50 Responses
cybersayer
September 9th, 2010 at 3:55 am
As Arthur Schopenhauer said: All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Such “ridicule” may be incontrovertible evidence of the validity of GCP.
Neutrinoghost
September 9th, 2010 at 4:17 am
@Jdiggy77 I agree with your point, but to just call him a “sceptic” is a bit harsh. He’s an Astrophysicist, one of the most intelligent people in the world and undoubitbly a fantastic researcher in his own right. I think he’s point is entirely valid, stranger things have happened.
Damienf77
September 9th, 2010 at 4:52 am
The longer something is planned and steps are taken to ensure a given result, the further into predictability that event falls. 911 was planned for a long time and symbolism was placed in movies and television for years before it. What this does is clears a path for a given result to occur and those in power know this. They also know that most people will blindly accept whatever story they’re told on the news and even go so far as to mock anyone that chalenges it. This is what is being read.
nicholasthetaylor
September 9th, 2010 at 5:38 am
As a person who’s image comprises largely of defence mechanisms designed to keep people from manipulating my behaviour, I am not very happy with the discovery of this new science as it could open the gates for telepathy. Of course, I’ll just have to adapt, but it’ll be a lot of bother. Its not a tool that I would choose to use personally, unless there was a gadget type nature to it eg. Mind television or something. I’d like to see computer games benefitting from this new science.
Phazerous
September 9th, 2010 at 5:44 am
@milliondustopeners Studies have shown that neural tissue exists within the human heart. Many believe that this is where emotion is generated. (For people who may think that feeling emotion in your heart is a stupid thing that people just say)
theno1katzman
September 9th, 2010 at 6:04 am
this is awesome
gunnarogu
September 9th, 2010 at 6:06 am
The GCP and personal experience complement each other, each providing a perspective that supplements what we learn from the other view. Science is a great tool, but it isn’t by itself sufficient. We also need intuition and creative interpretations of the world around us. Put it all together and the picture becomes richer and much more clear.
melodiccharm
September 9th, 2010 at 6:17 am
I think this research is important but funny too. There are many people myself included that feel emotional waves just like seeing with our eyes. To people like us this is just a fact like vision. One day they will say, wow, many people felt these things through history but were a minority. Science is a consensus building operation. Until then this minority keeps feeling these things without words. I guess the real question is why is this sensitivity bread out of us……
deepika12
September 9th, 2010 at 7:14 am
@abilityoflove The same year our Royal family in Nepal was massacred….I know, this doesn’t really matter to the world but I just wanted to add to your list…………
Overcastkid747
September 9th, 2010 at 8:11 am
This takes order from chaos to a new level..
I cannot wait until we figure out the science behind this.
abilityoflove
September 9th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Good points there and you are right that the cause could be somethng else. However in the case of this research team, they made experiments which statistically prove that a single human mind can affect a single quantum random number generator or other chaotic mechanical systems. Chaotic systems are very sensitive to any slight influence and show patterns (attractors) if modulated even by a very weak force.
It is not just one experiment that lead to this particular INTERPRETATION…
phookadude
September 9th, 2010 at 8:23 am
@abilityoflove No, assigning the effect to some sort of global human conciousness is completely unscientific.
For instance, assuming the data is correct how do they know if it’s not one guy who is causing the effect? How do they know if it’s not maybe how people treat thier pets in times of stress that is causing the effect? How do they know if its many multiples of telivision broadcasts all duplicating each other that is the cause?
Those speculations may see silly but they are just as valid.
abilityoflove
September 9th, 2010 at 9:21 am
It is not a presumption but an intelligent speculation. 9/11, Princes Diana death, New Year celebrations etc were not global physical phenomena but a global cultural events, yet these were correlating with the patterns of the quantum random number generators around the word.
It started as a global conscious event and ended as a subtle global physical event as well, beyond the physiology of human body.
abilityoflove
September 9th, 2010 at 10:09 am
“Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.” – Arthur Schopenhauer
abilityoflove
September 9th, 2010 at 10:20 am
That is a very good point!
uranian23
September 9th, 2010 at 11:12 am
it amazes me that this isn’t more well known. here we have hard, repeatable evidence for a link between consciousness and the “exterior”, yet it is almost entirely unknown. noosphere needs mroe marketing!
bridge7885
September 9th, 2010 at 11:47 am
this video is not sufficient of the information that needs to be understood in order to form a valid opinion on such a huge undertaking in the scientific community. it needs to be removed or revised so that it goes further in depth at the supporting research and facts put forth into creating this project.
zadeh79
September 9th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
A common misunderstanding or assumption is that the team finds an unusual pattern in the data (through some frame of time), and then goes back and looks for something in the News that it correlates with. But actually, just the opposite is done with these experiments: 1) Something major event occurs. 2) the team specifies a time frame they feel is appropriate for data analysis (without looking at any data prior). 3) the data within that chosen event time frame is analyzed.
zadeh79
September 9th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
I wonder if the skeptic is aware that this experiment was born out of the results of studies in quantum physics (double-slit experiment). This effect, has nothing to do with your garden-variety paranormal garbage, though it is equally as strange.
The same results have been duplicated from a variety of different experimental forms in the past.
rinpoche1
September 9th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
The so-called skeptic is no such thing. He is merely expressing a personal bias and ignoring scientific method.
phookadude
September 9th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
The problem with this is that they have allready made the presumption that it is conciousness that is effecting the results. This is not how science works. You don’t start with a presumption, you eliminate all possiblities until you come up with something. As you say conciousness is barely defined, but apperntly it will slightly affect random number generators, at least that is the presumption they have made.
hopeandjoywithlove
September 9th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
joined/group/chemtrailvideos.
ardencoulte
September 9th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
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ardencoulte
September 9th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
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relV6
September 9th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
He’s not the skeptic. On the contrary. They are the skeptics. He’s just accepting what he has been taught as reality.
betterbett9048
September 9th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Awesome, I think he was trying to say, our perception and reality are one and the same, out limited view is contained in the sphere. backed by our own reality.
WazDDR
September 9th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
@emptyhighways people like jesus, mohammed, krishna, buddha etc r very evolved beings; they knew all this n much more; not only knew but experienced; but people atdat time werent very evolved so wat they did was play wit their mind 2evolve them faster eg getting married, worshipping, god; all this does something 2 the mind but at the same time they werent lying; wen one evolves so much they lose their desires(lust, gluttony, hate, greed), they realise they r not the body; the msg jus gt distort
thaluszka1
September 9th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
very smart chap
turtlen
September 9th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
X..
turtlen
September 9th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
E..
turtlen
September 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
S..
turtlen
September 9th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
interesting
Samothracian
September 9th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
@begily
Samothracian
September 9th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
@begily
transtlantic
September 9th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
@WildCatsKitten1
LOL… you are nuts!
completly nuts!
tell the people here how you are proving your belief in god.
people always love to laugh how cretards like you assume:
“X with no evidence, means X is true!”
LOL
WildCatsKitten1
September 9th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
@emptyheadways
The crusades were defensive not offensive.
Very concrete and real people were tortued and murdered under the orders of atheists such as mao, stalin, pol pot, that should not have happened if belief in god was neccesary for this to happen.
Karlemids
September 9th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
‘theater of the mind’ bravo mr bohm! this man is a great thinker
begily
September 10th, 2010 at 12:06 am
what year was this?
TedDGPoulos
September 10th, 2010 at 12:45 am
The most fundamental question of all: What is The underlying law of nature.
ursulgreen
September 10th, 2010 at 1:19 am
Hi guys, if you like Bohm read also Bernard Haisch.
wlodzio47
September 10th, 2010 at 1:23 am
@DaktaBubbles Perhaps evolution movement not revolution.
DaktaBubbles
September 10th, 2010 at 1:31 am
emotions are a construct of thought, although when most people reach adoloesence and adulthood there emotions start to controll their thought. This is why constant revolution of mind is nessasary.
wlodzio47
September 10th, 2010 at 1:31 am
Yes of coarse there must be balance. So balance your brain not other part of your body, never use liver for thinking process no no no.
tobiaslarsgunnar
September 10th, 2010 at 2:07 am
a complete human is not just mind….
without the heart we create science run amok – there must be a co-operation and balance…imo.
wlodzio47
September 10th, 2010 at 2:53 am
@tobiaslarsgunnar Part of mind control system was to use heart for thinking, and brain emptiness. I prefer worship the mind.
JudyOsmundson
September 10th, 2010 at 3:31 am
Wonderful idea, Sam. Hope it gets wide play and recognition! It is quite amazing that there has been a lucid understanding of quantum mechanics for so many years and we have not recognized its use in Science.
7711ish
September 10th, 2010 at 3:38 am
I find David Bohm’s ideas intriguing.
Samothracian
September 10th, 2010 at 4:24 am
This is an excerpt from a one hour conversation I had with Professor Bohm. I am considering making the whole of it available in DVD format with an accompanying copy of the text in booklet form. Those interested can contact me.
themanofearth
September 10th, 2010 at 5:19 am
As far as I’ve come to understand science is not really concerned with truth so much as functional truth and not so much knowledge so much as functional knowledge. what we do with that functional knowledge/truth has to do with the “full approach,” which lies in philosophy.
dougmarkham
September 10th, 2010 at 5:29 am
Well there is a conversation between Jiddu krishnamurti and David Bohm on youtube which elaborates on the total perception, or the full approach as you verbalize it.
I think they were talking in terms of the thinking brain as the over dominant part and the mind as the whole: so emotions and feelings are part of the mind, not just the thinking brain, which forms ideas and theories. In that light, ideas are seen as the warping factor, distorting reality.
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