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2010
Posted by The Mad Ape as Keiser Report
In Episode 67 of his show Max Keiser and co-host Stacy Herbert look at the scandals of the summer sequel of bankers returning to the scene of the crime to demand another, bigger ransom in “Deflationary Black Hole: The Sequel.” In the second half of the show, Max talks to documentary filmmaker, Bregtje van der Haak about her film “Time for Change”, in which ordinary people respond to the crisis of banking and bankers with their own solutions.
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motorolarules
September 2nd, 2010 at 8:38 am
@TomUsherRLCC agreed, and thanks
TomUsherRLCC
September 2nd, 2010 at 9:12 am
@motorolarules Yes, it can happen; and yes, it would be, will be, revolutionary. Fundamentally, I’m for a moneyless society. Thanks for commenting and asking. Peace to you. By the way, I enjoyed your latest upload.
straty01
September 2nd, 2010 at 9:31 am
@ytgv3fc7 there is plenty in the world for all, unfortunately our current economic and political structure does not cater for this. We are all part of nature, whether you want to accept this or not, until we learn to embrace nature, to work with it and not try to conquer it we are doomed to repeat past mistakes
deadeyedick1933
September 2nd, 2010 at 10:16 am
@ytgv3fc7 Iron mining turns into steel manufacturing, bridges, buildings, ships and industrial equipment, in addition to many productive jobs along the way. Wheat turns into tractors, land improvement and rural economies and ends up in your stomach. Gold turns into gold bars and sits in a vault. Which type of production would you rather have as a representation of your national economy?
zayadnay
September 2nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
@ytgv3fc7 i highly doubt it… since money is not even being printed any more.. it’s just being added on a computer program in the FED so basically they can just add a few zeros to JPmorgan’s account and that would give them a bailout lol so since our currrent technology binds us to this planet which has a finite amount of gold that would lead one to conclude that there isn;t enough gold to match the productive output of goods and services of all humans on this earth
kojilalom
September 2nd, 2010 at 11:14 am
@ytgv3fc7 It was just a matter of speech not literal. Look at the Venus Project for an idea to what I meant.
hobo59
September 2nd, 2010 at 11:26 am
@ytgv3fc7 It’s too bad neither the Taliban nor Al Quada are signers of the Geneva convention and are thus not beneficiaries of it either. Just another Fail on your part and theirs to understand that unconventional warfare = no conventional benefits !
BTW The Taliban is threatening to kill and kidnap relief workers there to help from the floods. And your worried about a couple drone deaths vs the thousands who will die if they rely on the Taliban for help ? What a Douche bag !
dialoguequent
September 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
@ytgv3fc7 : I’m sure modern science can MAKE a material with the same properties for less than $1230 an ounce. Just admit Gold is just another speculation in this low interest,debt driven economy. When panic sets in you’ll have more need of a gun and food than any of that Bling Bling golden stuff. Besides, how much gold is that per capita of a world of >6 bln ppl?
Ppl accept whatever their government accepts has value and for a sophisticated economy gold IS outdated
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
@dialoguequent intrinsic value has nothing to do with faith or emotions nor stories of people. Dollars are fiat with no intrinsic value. Gold is not fiat and has intrinsic physical value. Electrical conductivity, unit mass and malleability are the key factors that give it value, and not rusting whatsoever and being light is what makes it good money. Fair fait playing fields are impossible, like snorkelling in clouds – can’t happen.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
@dialoguequent gold is not out-dated, it’s the most reliable, honest money you’ve ever heard of. No other currency is able to tolerate the fraud and corruption that goes with every political nation. Every kind of paper currency leads always to robbery of the people, which is the worst possible result.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
@zayadnay never in all history has gold been so rare it can’t match produced goods. NOT ONE DAY IN ALL HISTORY of ALL MAN KIND.
There’s enough gold to go around.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
@deadeyedick1933 gold represents production, it’s mined, that’s why it makes the best money of all. I’m not saying iron doesn’t work but I’m saying for value, it’s a lot heavier.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
@kojilalom I do not suggest technology ever be treated as our slave. At smaller levels of complexity it is tools, at larger levels it will rival your own ability to survive and think and will compete with you if you try to enslave it. Anything able to be your slave is able to think on your level and fight you. Consider that.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 2:58 pm
@kojilalom #1 you can still make an art of the machines, food and fields used for survival. #2 we can all indeed learn it all, thanks to having machines that share and store information faster than ever before, globally connected. With even intermittent co-operation we can learn from each other quickly and then act individually.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
@pretorious700 neither works for a society – not Darwinian evolution of only individuals, nor a nanny-state.
Darwinian evolution favors individuals to the point where states are destroyed and wars are consistent.
We need a second-layer of evolution: functional tribal units that don’t act against the needs of the individual but can work better together and themselves evolve. Mixed-migration patterns with less restrictions but not zero restrictions.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 3:21 pm
@straty01 ‘is an abundance’ –> I say ‘was’. Quickly we are running out of clean water and out of land to put people and out of good agricultural land to grow enough food. I’m not saying this must be, I’m saying this is the trend and the global population refuses to believe it.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 4:02 pm
@trinomialtree your money, not his. That’s the point. ALL MONEY, ALL ASSETS, no more wealth hording. End it all, save humanity. Free markets are bad for survival and humanity, encouraging greed and manufacturing poverty. End the lies and end the corruption of it.
The only proper functioning economy is one in which profiteering is punished by death.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
@bobbyb1978 free markets reward crime, it becomes a trading strategy and a normal way of life.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 4:35 pm
@pretorious700 actually making all resources plentiful by technology is the only future humanity has with lots of people. The future humanity has with free markets is no more than 4 billion people planet-wide. Refusal to accept either reality is a future in which maybe humans < than 100 and then we’re done. End of story.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 5:00 pm
@Zoidborg1 it’s a fractal pattern designed to lure in buyers and sellers and then screw them over once the trade is done. Every lure-trade is in balance with actual holdings for profiteering and manipulation by Goldman, JPMorgan. If none were there none would be flashed.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 5:44 pm
@suzettespencer no it won’t. It’s already killing itself because the programmers aren’t smart enough to make it self-aware. They’d have to trust it to make trades and moves that can destroy them now, just to learn to be self-aware, and they do not trust it. Instead they enslave the algorithms to profiteer-pirate the wealth of others, so it can not be anything more than a fancy money-funnel
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 6:36 pm
@alphaknave if the world is to turn its back on Islam then the world must do the same about Christians. Perhaps even Jews, not so sure. Just because Israel has done nasty things should not tarnish the reputation of all religious or ethnic Jews through history. Christians on the other hand have been good at waging holy wars from many nations.
ytgv3fc7
September 2nd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
@hobo59 the geneva convention, you dirty asshole, is what says no uniform + no weapons = civilians. That’s who.
The drones are killing CHILDREN AND ADULT CIVILIANS and it’s ROCK SOLID EVIDENCE and ROCK SOLID REASON to wage war back on USA soil.
Those targets are more like 45% Taliban in the general drone kill range. Someone’s being careless.
Snipers, field-gunners, LAV gunners, I’d be much more confident in
christophercredit
September 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Power to the people. Question: I am a strong believer in entitlement by divine right. In other words, we are born unspeakably wealthy because this planet–and all that is contained therein belongs to God, and as children of God, it is the inheritance of all. As such we should be allotted shares/stocks at birth in the planets natural resources by divine authority. Conversely, I am strongly opposed to income tax, property tax, and most sales tax.
Am I ‘liberal’ or ‘conservative’? Please tell me.
motorolarules
September 2nd, 2010 at 8:17 pm
@TomUsherRLCC But can this happen, actually? The fed has officially stolen, by way OF congress, that ability we (congress) use to have. It will be revolutionary to take that and give it back to the congress… don’t you think?
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