@leemoody93 We don’t need marketing to survive. As bill hicks would say and I’m paraphrasing: “I’m tired of these fevered egos who are tainting our collective unconscious and making us pay a higher psychic price for believing them.” These people in marketing are using lies and exagerrations to convince people to buy products we dont need. Keeping a cheerful smile on your face all day isn’t humane. It’s just something people do so they can screw people over and make money thats it.
@UrinationNation We do still need marketing but I defiantly agree with that!
On a random note, after a short spell at work experience, I’ve decided marketing isn’t for me. It’s way to sociable and I simple couldn’t maintain a cheerful smile all the time, especially before my morning coffee.
did anyone else see “Fundamentals of Marketing Basics (Part 1)” as a featured video next to this? god i’m depressed. i implore bill hicks’ ghost to come back or at least appoint a more worthy replacement than denis leary
@73elephants That was the point you idiot. YOu have just shown why you dont understand the subtlties of hicks. I mentioned dane cook because he seems like the dumb, typical american, loud and shouty with no substance sort of thing that you may like. Who is your favorite comedian.. For the record, hicks is not my favorite comedian…. my fav is Steven wright. Also I like Ricky Gervais, (His writing, not his shit stand up)
@73elephants “Over the top vehemence”. That’s very well said! I still think there’s a taboo against dissing marketers, or indeed most forms of “entrepreneur”. We are at the tail end of the “business is our God” period still, after all. I get my sense of the taboo from listening to, of all things supposedly “liberal” National Public Radio! Shows there will let some marketer come on and talk about the most intrusive/tasteless/deceptive crap ad campaign with nary a criticism of them.
@channelyourvoice Dane Cook, eh? No thanks. He appears to be just as unfunny as your preferred comedian. Is he the only alternative you could think of? No wonder you think Bill Hicks is a genius, if so.
@trisoctehedron There’s no taboo against calling marketing people evil. It’s a commonplace. What makes Bill Hicks funny to those who find him funny is his over-the-top vehemence. “Marketing people are evil” — not funny. “Marketing people, kill yourselves” — funny (sort of). If a taboo is being broken, it is the taboo against wishing death on someone. That’s his whole stick really: being more angry and rude than society normally permits. Without wit to enliven it, I find it cheap and weak.
@OwnedOver9000 this reminds me of the Ark Fleet Ship B, a ship of Golgafrinchan’s useless “middle-men” from The Restaurant at the End of the Universe by Douglas Adams
@leemoody93 What you’re missing is that customers don’t want commercials, in fact customers don’t like being labeled customers, or statistics in some graph. Marketing creates illusions of need when really everything they sell is a want, but they play them up with emotions and half truths. They tell you things like you can’t live without this or that, and make you think that you’re lame if you don’t have it. This is a deception to sell us mostly things that don’t need to even exist.
@usetheforce100 This is an insight I have had…sort of, though I live in the center of the USA and have never needed to speak anything but English to anyone.
You laid it right out there. And I will add that I think that our the language-insulation from the rest of the world that we have here in the USA is bad for Americans, by and large.
Continuing 2:
In addition, as we all know to our infinite disgust by now, marketing and marketers LIE constantly, very often to our great harm–remember all that frantic marketing of cigarettes when the makers of cigarettes knew how harmful they were? And how about that barrage of advertising today designed to get you to eat more McDonalds “food”. They know how bad that stuff is for people, but they keep using every possible means to condition you to eat it just as often as possible.
Continuing:
What marketing-ADVERTISING does is 1. Intrude everywhere, so that nothing in society is allowed to remain free of commerce or thoughts of commerce, & so implicitly everything becomes thought of as in some sense a product, and for sale; and 2. take every single basic human emotion and create advertisements around it, to the end that having that emotion, or wanting to have it, will become conditioned in your mind with buying or wanting to buy some product.
25 Responses
jamesbeckers
August 18th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
press the cc button “transcribe audio” for more jokes!
Ansiroth
August 18th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
@tristramshandy3 amen brother
mana2432
August 18th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
@RadicalSyndicate if you use youtube and you are against capitalism your brain is not functioning properly
RadicalSyndicate
August 18th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
if you like bill hicks and you still support capitalism your brain is not functioning properly
Cand1date
August 18th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
@leemoody93 We don’t need marketing to survive. As bill hicks would say and I’m paraphrasing: “I’m tired of these fevered egos who are tainting our collective unconscious and making us pay a higher psychic price for believing them.” These people in marketing are using lies and exagerrations to convince people to buy products we dont need. Keeping a cheerful smile on your face all day isn’t humane. It’s just something people do so they can screw people over and make money thats it.
bjtow
August 18th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Citizen Radio!
bjtow
August 19th, 2010 at 12:00 am
Jamie Kilstein is similar to the late great Hicks, check him out
(you ube wont let me post a link up?)
ANIM0SI7Y
August 19th, 2010 at 12:55 am
I LOVE BILL HICKS
priestjohn100
August 19th, 2010 at 1:54 am
He is Brilliant guy.Good work.
Phelan666
August 19th, 2010 at 2:06 am
“If anyone in here is in marketing or advertising, kill yourself.”
140% YES.
leemoody93
August 19th, 2010 at 2:38 am
@UrinationNation We do still need marketing but I defiantly agree with that!
On a random note, after a short spell at work experience, I’ve decided marketing isn’t for me. It’s way to sociable and I simple couldn’t maintain a cheerful smile all the time, especially before my morning coffee.
bocckoka
August 19th, 2010 at 3:33 am
after this video you fucking tube offers me a video on marketing basics… fuck it.
IEatVideoClips
August 19th, 2010 at 4:18 am
marketing is all about fooling idiots into spending their money on complete SHIT. if someone really needs something they will search to get it
TMA2
August 19th, 2010 at 5:05 am
did anyone else see “Fundamentals of Marketing Basics (Part 1)” as a featured video next to this? god i’m depressed. i implore bill hicks’ ghost to come back or at least appoint a more worthy replacement than denis leary
kelmark
August 19th, 2010 at 5:34 am
He is a genius
channelyourvoice
August 19th, 2010 at 6:16 am
@73elephants That was the point you idiot. YOu have just shown why you dont understand the subtlties of hicks. I mentioned dane cook because he seems like the dumb, typical american, loud and shouty with no substance sort of thing that you may like. Who is your favorite comedian.. For the record, hicks is not my favorite comedian…. my fav is Steven wright. Also I like Ricky Gervais, (His writing, not his shit stand up)
trisoctehedron
August 19th, 2010 at 6:17 am
@73elephants “Over the top vehemence”. That’s very well said! I still think there’s a taboo against dissing marketers, or indeed most forms of “entrepreneur”. We are at the tail end of the “business is our God” period still, after all. I get my sense of the taboo from listening to, of all things supposedly “liberal” National Public Radio! Shows there will let some marketer come on and talk about the most intrusive/tasteless/deceptive crap ad campaign with nary a criticism of them.
73elephants
August 19th, 2010 at 6:32 am
@channelyourvoice Dane Cook, eh? No thanks. He appears to be just as unfunny as your preferred comedian. Is he the only alternative you could think of? No wonder you think Bill Hicks is a genius, if so.
73elephants
August 19th, 2010 at 6:36 am
@trisoctehedron There’s no taboo against calling marketing people evil. It’s a commonplace. What makes Bill Hicks funny to those who find him funny is his over-the-top vehemence. “Marketing people are evil” — not funny. “Marketing people, kill yourselves” — funny (sort of). If a taboo is being broken, it is the taboo against wishing death on someone. That’s his whole stick really: being more angry and rude than society normally permits. Without wit to enliven it, I find it cheap and weak.
UrinationNation
August 19th, 2010 at 7:03 am
@OwnedOver9000 this reminds me of the Ark Fleet Ship B, a ship of Golgafrinchan’s useless “middle-men” from The Restaurant at the End of the Universe by Douglas Adams
Notice how I just name dropped.
UrinationNation
August 19th, 2010 at 7:53 am
@leemoody93 What you’re missing is that customers don’t want commercials, in fact customers don’t like being labeled customers, or statistics in some graph. Marketing creates illusions of need when really everything they sell is a want, but they play them up with emotions and half truths. They tell you things like you can’t live without this or that, and make you think that you’re lame if you don’t have it. This is a deception to sell us mostly things that don’t need to even exist.
trisoctehedron
August 19th, 2010 at 8:40 am
@usetheforce100 This is an insight I have had…sort of, though I live in the center of the USA and have never needed to speak anything but English to anyone.
You laid it right out there. And I will add that I think that our the language-insulation from the rest of the world that we have here in the USA is bad for Americans, by and large.
trisoctehedron
August 19th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Continuing 3 (and the end at last!):
Invasion of privacy on the Internet. Need I say more?
trisoctehedron
August 19th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Continuing 2:
In addition, as we all know to our infinite disgust by now, marketing and marketers LIE constantly, very often to our great harm–remember all that frantic marketing of cigarettes when the makers of cigarettes knew how harmful they were? And how about that barrage of advertising today designed to get you to eat more McDonalds “food”. They know how bad that stuff is for people, but they keep using every possible means to condition you to eat it just as often as possible.
trisoctehedron
August 19th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Continuing:
What marketing-ADVERTISING does is 1. Intrude everywhere, so that nothing in society is allowed to remain free of commerce or thoughts of commerce, & so implicitly everything becomes thought of as in some sense a product, and for sale; and 2. take every single basic human emotion and create advertisements around it, to the end that having that emotion, or wanting to have it, will become conditioned in your mind with buying or wanting to buy some product.
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